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Post  Ringo Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:23 am

It seems the good old BBC are putting out a programme tonight attacking FIFA.
This is not the best idea they have ever had considering our 2018 bid is still up in the air.
Will it affect our chances or did we ever really have a chance of hosting the world cup anyway?
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Post  Guest Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:33 am

The voters have already been influenced which way to vote, think the bookies are correct in Russia winning with us a close second. Corruption will always be involved and Russia are mint at that

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Post  jak Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:51 am

It could work in our favour.

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Post  Ringo Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:52 am

How do you arrive at that conclusion?
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Post  jak Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:12 am

Ringo wrote:How do you arrive at that conclusion?

There is corruption in FIFA but they're not ALL corrupt. There will be those that will not be left open to the charge of voting against the UK just because FIFA has come under attack. If there are enough of them it will work in our favour.
There's a lot of politics and in fighting within FIFA because of corruption this type of exposure will be welcomed by more than you think.

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Post  Ringo Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:17 am

But is it something new they are coming up with or are the BBC just raking over old history?
If its old history it is not doing our cause any good.
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Post  jak Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:20 am

That we're about to find out.

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Post  Bedshammer Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:22 am

Jack Warner is a corrupt bully. Just because he says something doesn't mean it's true. He's probably worried about what the programme will say about him.
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Post  jpr60 Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:04 pm

FIFA is totally corrupt - that we know from recent history (as outlined in the book I read a couple of years back - can't remember the author but he went through the whole sherbang, the company they used to syphon off funds etc - Warner was already mentioned as having been involved in bribessome years before) and the people now looking at the way they do business has questioned several suspect practices, saying that there is little or no "transparency" in the way stuff gets done. Sepp Blatter is, no doubt up to his neck in bungs, which explains why he so desperately clings to his position.
This, added to the fact that the running of football i.e. the management of the game we love has long been in the hands of dubious people, at every level means we've got to expect that one day there'll be a "Pandora's Box" situation which could destroy the organization of the game, as we know it.

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Post  Guest Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:24 pm

The thing that's astonished me here is the sense of timing, how stupid can you possibly be, there is something very annal about the UK that says its OK to shoot ourselves in the foot however and whenever possible, we have a chance of getting this but we will need to edge our bets and earn brownie points from every possible direction, so what do we do, the BBC puts out a programme alleging massive corruption targeting some of the main players involved at FIFA, don't the BBC like Britain, i know about the arguments about free press, but surely from time to time a twat like Cameron needs to step up at times like these and say to the BEEB, look hear put that Panorama prog out before the vote takes place and there will be ramifications. Afterwards, do what you like, but before, then beware.

Tell you what, Murdoch and Sky would never have done this in a million years, he knows how much a world cup in the UK means to him, his pockets and the country as a whole. Hey Ho this is what happens when you have a whole corporation on state benefits.

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Post  jak Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:38 pm

Malachite wrote:The thing that's astonished me here is the sense of timing, how stupid can you possibly be, there is something very annal about the UK that says its OK to shoot ourselves in the foot however and whenever possible, we have a chance of getting this but we will need to edge our bets and earn brownie points from every possible direction, so what do we do, the BBC puts out a programme alleging massive corruption targeting some of the main players involved at FIFA, don't the BBC like Britain, i know about the arguments about free press, but surely from time to time a twat like Cameron needs to step up at times like these and say to the BEEB, look hear put that Panorama prog out before the vote takes place and there will be ramifications. Afterwards, do what you like, but before, then beware.

Tell you what, Murdoch and Sky would never have done this in a million years, he knows how much a world cup in the UK means to him, his pockets and the country as a whole. Hey Ho this is what happens when you have a whole corporation on state benefits.

Murdoch and Sky aint done a bad job of publicising the BBC's claims.

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Post  jpr60 Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:56 pm

If someone's got summat on FIFA I'm happy they put it out there whenever.
FIFA is corruption personified - they've got rich through wheeling and dealing vast sums of TV and other sponsorship money world-wide - they even insist on tax-free earnings, whilst the rest of us will pay through the nose for tickets and other World Cup paraphernalia, should we be "lucky" enough to stage the competition.
Meanwhile we've got a junior royal, our PM and David Beckham out there grovelling to be accepted by Sepp Blatter and his corrupt cronies. No effin' decency there, IMO.

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Post  FrenchSpur Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:44 pm

FIFA are rotten to the core. If it wasnt then there would be a lot more people in FIFA taking about it and complaining. It has been going on for years Havalange was at it Blatter is at it and so are all the rest of them...

Why do you think it is based in sunny Switzerland that well known footballing capital
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Post  jak Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:35 pm

jpr60 wrote:If someone's got summat on FIFA I'm happy they put it out there whenever.
FIFA is corruption personified - they've got rich through wheeling and dealing vast sums of TV and other sponsorship money world-wide - they even insist on tax-free earnings, whilst the rest of us will pay through the nose for tickets and other World Cup paraphernalia, should we be "lucky" enough to stage the competition.
Meanwhile we've got a junior royal, our PM and David Beckham out there grovelling to be accepted by Sepp Blatter and his corrupt cronies. No effin' decency there, IMO.
You are right, jpr !!!!!
What were we doing licking their feckin arses. Stick the world cup up Russias arse. FIFA Tosspot Tosspot Tosspot
One look at Sepp Blatter and you need a bath, slippery bastard. Tosspot Tosspot
Phuck 'em !!!!!

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Post  villanfromluton Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:37 pm

jak wrote:
Ringo wrote:How do you arrive at that conclusion?

There is corruption in FIFA but they're not ALL corrupt. There will be those that will not be left open to the charge of voting against the UK just because FIFA has come under attack. If there are enough of them it will work in our favour.
There's a lot of politics and in fighting within FIFA because of corruption this type of exposure will be welcomed by more than you think.

You fooking eejit Mad Mad
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Post  jak Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:40 pm

villanfromluton wrote:
jak wrote:
Ringo wrote:How do you arrive at that conclusion?

There is corruption in FIFA but they're not ALL corrupt. There will be those that will not be left open to the charge of voting against the UK just because FIFA has come under attack. If there are enough of them it will work in our favour.
There's a lot of politics and in fighting within FIFA because of corruption this type of exposure will be welcomed by more than you think.

You fooking eejit Mad Mad

Yes, I'd have said naive wanker myself but I get your point. In my defence though we are talking about people who have no shame and don't react in a reasonable, human way. Wink

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