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Post  jpr60 Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:21 pm

Hi folks, Optimistic Gooner here.
Anyone remember 1971? The Arsenal had to go to White Hart Lane and not concede a goal in their final league match of the season to clinch the championship on goal average (as it was in those days). It was considered highly unlikely - "No Chance" read the headlines.
How about 1989 - final match of the season. The Arsenal had to win 2-0 at Anfield to snatch the championship away from Kenny Dalglish's Liverpool - not concede a goal and score twice to prevent Liverpool being champions, on their patch, an impossible task said (just about) everyone.
And now we have 2012. The Arsenal have to recover from a 0-4 loss in Italy, have to beat AC Milan 5-0 at The Grove to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. No chance!
Well, I'd agree it's a hefty challenge but think on..........in Italy, on the San Siro pitch (which didn't allow fast or accurate play on either wing due to new turf having been laid) we played at the pace that Milan set and got well and truly stuffed. At The Grove we'll have a proper, playable surface and can attack AC Milan with pace - two early goals and we're well in with a chance. I'm thinking it's not impossible - I'm hoping the players agree!

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Post  FrenchSpur Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:26 pm

You need to score 5 goals.... whilst not impossible, hardly likely...
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Post  jak Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:42 pm

jpr60 wrote:Hi folks, Optimistic Gooner here.
Anyone remember 1971? The Arsenal had to go to White Hart Lane and not concede a goal in their final league match of the season to clinch the championship on goal average (as it was in those days). It was considered highly unlikely - "No Chance" read the headlines.
How about 1989 - final match of the season. The Arsenal had to win 2-0 at Anfield to snatch the championship away from Kenny Dalglish's Liverpool - not concede a goal and score twice to prevent Liverpool being champions, on their patch, an impossible task said (just about) everyone.
And now we have 2012. The Arsenal have to recover from a 0-4 loss in Italy, have to beat AC Milan 5-0 at The Grove to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. No chance!
Well, I'd agree it's a hefty challenge but think on..........in Italy, on the San Siro pitch (which didn't allow fast or accurate play on either wing due to new turf having been laid) we played at the pace that Milan set and got well and truly stuffed. At The Grove we'll have a proper, playable surface and can attack AC Milan with pace - two early goals and we're well in with a chance. I'm thinking it's not impossible - I'm hoping the players agree!

jpr, our problem is that we just don't attack at pace. We now slow the game to walking pace just to make sure that we give the opposition time to get all 11 of their players between us and their goal. Milan will just let us do what we've become so good at, play the ball back and forth across the face of their defence. They have no reason to attack us at all.
No, the damage is done. What we should concentrate on is staying injury free in this game, we're down to the bare bones as it is.

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Post  QBVILLA Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:40 pm

Optimistic gooner is obviously also a smackhead
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Post  villanfromluton Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:40 pm

You could well score 5 goals, god only knows how many you will concede though!!! That Scillachi played well on Saturday didnt he Very Happy
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Post  FrenchSpur Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:42 pm

villanfromluton wrote:You could well score 5 goals, god only knows how many you will concede though!!! That Scillachi played well on Saturday didnt he Very Happy

Top players the lot of them..... just misunderstood.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  jpr60 Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:13 pm

FrenchSpur wrote:
villanfromluton wrote:You could well score 5 goals, god only knows how many you will concede though!!! That Scillachi played well on Saturday didnt he Very Happy

Top players the lot of them..... just misunderstood.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

I've only seen the last 15 minutes or so of the Sunderland game and what I've heard I've certainly not gone out of my way to seek out the full 90 minutes.
Trust me, all is not lost. Optimistic Gooner is on to something with his analysis regarding Arsenal's "no chance" matches!

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Post  villanfromluton Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:29 pm

Well you have to be right on one occassion JP, cos you do seem to be lose quite frequently recently
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Post  jpr60 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:10 pm

So. it's come-back time! 4-0 down, eh? Let's see what can be done!

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Post  villainies Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:22 pm

I've read a few things today suggesting Arsenal are in with a chance tonight! If anyone will score 5 tonight it'll be the opponents eh.
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Post  jpr60 Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:24 pm

villainies wrote:I've read a few things today suggesting Arsenal are in with a chance tonight! If anyone will score 5 tonight it'll be the opponents eh.



You may well be right - ordinarily I'd be happy if we simply won the match if not the tie but I've got Optimistic Gooner on my back and he does seem to have been calling the shots just recently!

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Post  FrenchSpur Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:13 pm

2-0 you could actually manage to pull off a remarkable comeback
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Post  FrenchSpur Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:31 pm

3-0 and its not even half time
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Post  MrMagoo Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:32 pm

Gonna be a great 2nd half
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Post  FrenchSpur Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:34 pm

MrMagoo wrote:Gonna be a great 2nd half

It will be 4-0 with a minute to go.... and someone will score.....
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Post  Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:35 pm

Incredible fight from Arsenal. Problem is, if Milan even score one, they'll have to score another 3.

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Post  ADRIAN_1976 Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:52 pm

After seeing the first half.. can see Arsenal scoring six Laughing
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Post  QBVILLA Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:53 pm

That's fcuked it now
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Post  ADRIAN_1976 Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:54 pm

villainies wrote:I've read a few things today suggesting Arsenal are in with a chance tonight! If anyone will score 5 tonight it'll be the opponents eh.

Your worrying me Villanies.. wanting to keep Mcminge.. Silly youtube posts and now Ringo-esue posts affraid
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Post  Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:37 pm

Well good, but not good enough in the end. Seems to be the story of Arsenal in the last 7 years.

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Post  ADRIAN_1976 Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:38 pm

Fantastic game.. what a chance for RvP to score a fourth..

Arsenal tired last 20 minutes and Milan kept the ball well..

Optimistic Gooner was soooo close to his predictions..
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Post  FrenchSpur Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:39 pm

Ezekiel 25:17 wrote:Well good, but not good enough in the end. Seems to be the story of Arsenal in the last 7 years.

Is it seven years already ??
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Post  Guest Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:43 pm

FrenchSpur wrote:
Ezekiel 25:17 wrote:Well good, but not good enough in the end. Seems to be the story of Arsenal in the last 7 years.

Is it seven years already ??

2005 was the last trophy they won, I think? I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong.

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Post  FrenchSpur Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:45 pm

Ezekiel 25:17 wrote:
FrenchSpur wrote:
Ezekiel 25:17 wrote:Well good, but not good enough in the end. Seems to be the story of Arsenal in the last 7 years.

Is it seven years already ??

2005 was the last trophy they won, I think? I'll hold my hands up if I'm wrong.

The Goons will know they seem pretty up on dates at the moment.... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Post  MrMagoo Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:00 pm

Ok they may not have got through tonight, but they have had e great results in a row now.

Coming into form at the right time for the champions league places
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