Big week ahead

Well even I would have given you three points out of the nine....... but just two...... my god you must be so disappointed....

The final coffin nail has been hammered in.

Ringo wrote:The final coffin nail has been hammered in.

It was the referee..... I didnt see it.... The other team did not let us play...

Take your pick for the excuse

FrenchSpur wrote:

Ringo wrote:The final coffin nail has been hammered in.

It was the referee..... I didnt see it.... The other team did not let us play...

Take your pick for the excuse

Don't talk bollox, we don't deserve to be at the top, end of. Today was classic - we should have had a pen, didn't get it, we should have scored two or three goals, we didn't - OK our keeper saved a "pen" but even that wasn't enough to drive the team on. So, we ain't good enough - end of!

jpr60 wrote:Liverpool, Tottingham and Bolton - The Pool at home, the other two away. Nine points are needed, no question.
Nine points doesn't necessarily mean anything other than we are going for it, anything less than nine points at this stage means we're handing the Premier League title to ManU. Great to be focussed, eh? C'mon Arsenal - let'em'ave it (and I don't mean ManU - that comes later)!

I truly didn't think we'd react as poorly as that. Two points out of nine! It doesn't matter the ref screwed up (IMO) against The Pool giving them extra minutes to equalise - we did well to get a draw at Tottingham and really should have scored more goals against Bolton. When the crunch came we just weren't up to it. That's the players, IMO more than the manager. Third at the death - not even second - when we should have been winning the bloody thing! Very sad!

Scot Parker...Gary Cahill.. That's all that was needed this season..

FrenchSpur wrote:

Ringo wrote:The final coffin nail has been hammered in.

It was the referee..... I didnt see it.... The other team did not let us play...

Take your pick for the excuse

You can't keep the old spud thing down. What a great season the spuds have had ( ) but once again their only success is another teams failure.

jpr60 wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Liverpool, Tottingham and Bolton - The Pool at home, the other two away. Nine points are needed, no question.
Nine points doesn't necessarily mean anything other than we are going for it, anything less than nine points at this stage means we're handing the Premier League title to ManU. Great to be focussed, eh? C'mon Arsenal - let'em'ave it (and I don't mean ManU - that comes later)!

I truly didn't think we'd react as poorly as that. Two points out of nine! It doesn't matter the ref screwed up (IMO) against The Pool giving them extra minutes to equalise - we did well to get a draw at Tottingham and really should have scored more goals against Bolton. When the crunch came we just weren't up to it. That's the players, IMO more than the manager. Third at the death - not even second - when we should have been winning the bloody thing! Very sad!

When I look at our squad, we are simply not as robust as Man. U or indeed, Chelsea.
It's far from the strongest Man.U team that we've seen in recent years, the same goes for Chelsea. They will be addressing their problems this summer. Ferguson, as much as I can't stand to even look at the blue nosed bastard, will not be caught in denial concerning the ability of his squad, let's hope Wenger realises that his experiment has failed.
We should be waving goodbye to Almunia, Squilacci, Diaby, Denilson, Eboue, Rosicky and Bendtner.
The first six are not up to it and there's no point in keeping Bendtner to fill in on the wings.
Wenger has ignored the obvious for too long now. He needs to add some beef down the spine of our team.

jak wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Liverpool, Tottingham and Bolton - The Pool at home, the other two away. Nine points are needed, no question.
Nine points doesn't necessarily mean anything other than we are going for it, anything less than nine points at this stage means we're handing the Premier League title to ManU. Great to be focussed, eh? C'mon Arsenal - let'em'ave it (and I don't mean ManU - that comes later)!

I truly didn't think we'd react as poorly as that. Two points out of nine! It doesn't matter the ref screwed up (IMO) against The Pool giving them extra minutes to equalise - we did well to get a draw at Tottingham and really should have scored more goals against Bolton. When the crunch came we just weren't up to it. That's the players, IMO more than the manager. Third at the death - not even second - when we should have been winning the bloody thing! Very sad!

When I look at our squad, we are simply not as robust as Man. U or indeed, Chelsea.
It's far from the strongest Man.U team that we've seen in recent years, the same goes for Chelsea. They will be addressing their problems this summer. Ferguson, as much as I can't stand to even look at the blue nosed bastard, will not be caught in denial concerning the ability of his squad, let's hope Wenger realises that his experiment has failed.
We should be waving goodbye to Almunia, Squilacci, Diaby, Denilson, Eboue, Rosicky and Bendtner.
The first six are not up to it and there's no point in keeping Bendtner to fill in on the wings.
Wenger has ignored the obvious for too long now. He needs to add some beef down the spine of our team.

Sure you're not a Villa fan, Jak?

jak wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:

Ringo wrote:The final coffin nail has been hammered in.

It was the referee..... I didnt see it.... The other team did not let us play...

Take your pick for the excuse

You can't keep the old spud thing down. What a great season the spuds have had ( ) but once again their only success is another teams failure.

I think we have had quite a good season. Not as good as I would like.

My main point was aimed at the original post where there was an expectation of getting nine points from three games... just the usual unwarranted arrogance from the gooners.

FrenchSpur wrote:

jak wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:

Ringo wrote:The final coffin nail has been hammered in.

It was the referee..... I didnt see it.... The other team did not let us play...

Take your pick for the excuse

You can't keep the old spud thing down. What a great season the spuds have had ( ) but once again their only success is another teams failure.

I think we have had quite a good season. Not as good as I would like.

My main point was aimed at the original post where there was an expectation of getting nine points from three games... just the usual unwarranted arrogance from the gooners.

I seriously thought we were going for the title - something we could still do at the time - that's not arrogance but it would appear, with hindsight, to have been overly optimistic. You just keep running to type Sad Spud and let us Gooners rue the collapse of another season, eh?!

Why am I a sad spud ?? and I certainly dont run to any stereotype that you may have of Spurs supporters

FrenchSpur wrote:Why am I a sad spud ??

You're a Spud, right (i.e. a supporter of Tottenham Hotspur)? For the rest of us (i.e. The World) that's sad, I mean, who would wish being a Spud on someone?

jpr60 wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:Why am I a sad spud ??

You're a Spud, right (i.e. a supporter of Tottenham Hotspur)? For the rest of us (i.e. The World) that's sad, I mean, who would wish being a Spud on someone?

Ok I guess we end it there.. I am not going to get in a slanging match over what is after all just a game. Have a nice day

FrenchSpur wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:Why am I a sad spud ??

You're a Spud, right (i.e. a supporter of Tottenham Hotspur)? For the rest of us (i.e. The World) that's sad, I mean, who would wish being a Spud on someone?

Ok I guess we end it there.. I am not going to get in a slanging match over what is after all just a game. Have a nice day

Good. Back in yer box Frenchie!

I think... Not

jpr60 wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:Why am I a sad spud ??

You're a Spud, right (i.e. a supporter of Tottenham Hotspur)? For the rest of us (i.e. The World) that's sad, I mean, who would wish being a Spud on someone?

Ok I guess we end it there.. I am not going to get in a slanging match over what is after all just a game. Have a nice day

Good. Back in yer box Frenchie!

Saying that i bet they are having a better season than wh fans

jpr60 wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:Why am I a sad spud ??

You're a Spud, right (i.e. a supporter of Tottenham Hotspur)? For the rest of us (i.e. The World) that's sad, I mean, who would wish being a Spud on someone?

Ok I guess we end it there.. I am not going to get in a slanging match over what is after all just a game. Have a nice day

Good. Back in yer box Frenchie!

ADRIAN_1976 wrote:Scot Parker...Gary Cahill.. That's all that was needed this season..

Which one of them plays in goals?

Just heard Collymore the wanker on talksport. He said Given in goal, Cahill and Samba (?) in defence and a strong defensive midfielder. Personally, dont think Samba is anywhere near good enough for Arsenal,

Szczesny was our 'Man of The Match' yesterday! As long as he's around I'm OK with the goalkeeping situation - perhaps we need some backup but perhaps we've already got that?!?
What I find hard to swallow is our problems with corner-kicks i.e. we can't score from them and have (apparently) conceded 56% of our goals from them! What is it about corners we don't understand, either in attack or defence?
When I think of the "Famous Five" defenders we had - they could defend from corners and attack from them. When we used to get a corner it was "Here's a goal", a real surge in expectation (ball into Bouldy on the near, flick, Adams in to finish) nowadays it's a "perhaps this time?" surge but more often than not a mere grumble (ball into near-post defender's head/over the top for a goal-kick). When we used to concede a corner it was a "Straight up the other end and score" feeling, now it's "I don't wanna watch".
What we're missing is specialist coaching IMO - defensive and offensive. It's fine to let the lads have their way - "express themselves" - but when there's a dead-ball situation it's gotta be drummed in - "This is how we win the ball" to defend or to score. working as a team isn't necessarily a natural thing and for dead-ball situations discipline will win the day 99% of the time.
56% of goals conceded from corner-kicks - it's effin' basic stuff for Chrissake!

JPR, when you think he set up the spine of his team with the likes of Seaman, Adams, keown, Petit and Viera, makes you wonder why he has seemingly disregarded that policy. Flair players are all well and good, but surely you need a mix

villanfromluton wrote:JPR, when you think he set up the spine of his team with the likes of Seaman, Adams, keown, Petit and Viera, makes you wonder why he has seemingly disregarded that policy. Flair players are all well and good, but surely you need a mix

After Seaman came Lehmann which was OK, it was after that the problems started with keepers. Szczesny is, hopefully the answer.
After Bould/Adams/Keown came Campbell which was OK, after that it all came untangled in central defence although I think Vermaelan is top-shelf, providing he's finally fit for next season.
Replacing Vieira has been impossible - Gilberto was great (but was offloaded too soon), Flamini had a great season in midfield but went off to be a star, Song has improved x-million% but is still not yet the answer.
Despite the fact that van Persie scores goals (when fit) we're certainly missing a "leader-of-the-line" IMO. The way Chamakh started I thought we'd found him but he went off the boil and has been rarely used of late. I'm assuming he hasn't turned into a bad player overnight so I'd like to see him up-top with RvP.
We've an abundance of flair players - as you say I'd like to see some strength added on - wouldn't mind Scott Parker in (unless that's yet another fitness problem) or someone else to drive the team.

I thought Van Persie looked class yesterday when slightly deeper and agree with you. I agree Song has improved a lot, but still not sure he is top class which is what you need. Parker has been fit most of the season, think he would be a great signing for you. Vermeehlan I agree looks a good tough defender, shame he has been injured so long. There has been a lot of talk about Cahill, but I am not totally certain about him either. Also talk of Leighton Baines, is Clichy going then?

villanfromluton wrote:I thought Van Persie looked class yesterday when slightly deeper and agree with you. I agree Song has improved a lot, but still not sure he is top class which is what you need. Parker has been fit most of the season, think he would be a great signing for you. Vermeehlan I agree looks a good tough defender, shame he has been injured so long. There has been a lot of talk about Cahill, but I am not totally certain about him either. Also talk of Leighton Baines, is Clichy going then?

Clichy has yet to agree a contract extension (same situation as Nasri) so he'll perhaps go for a big end-of-career money-spinner rather than stay on and perhaps lose his place to Gibbs over the coming season. Baines is good but, again, full-back is not the problem IMO. Who knows, maybe there'll be a change of shape and we'll play three at the back next season - "who knows" - that's what I keep thinking (as in "What the feck is goin'on?"). I hope Arsene still does but looking at him these past few weeks I'm not sure. I feel sorry for him - he looks well-and-truly shagged out!

Totally agree it is the spine of the team needs sorting, Baines is good, but if Clichy goes, you have Gibbs who looks a real talent. Wenger does look under increased pressure for some reason, maybe he realises the standard of Man Ure and Chelsea was not great this season and the time was right for Arsenal to win the premiership.