Jack Wilshere

Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

As is the way with young english midfielders there seems to be a lot of pundits simply saying that Wilshere can't tackle much in the same manner they've been excusing Scholes' shit tackling over the years.If there was any consistency then Wilshere would've seen red at least twice this season.If he can't tackle then he's going to have to learn how to.

QBVILLA wrote:As is the way with young english midfielders there seems to be a lot of pundits simply saying that Wilshere can't tackle much in the same manner they've been excusing Scholes' shit tackling over the years.If there was any consistency then Wilshere would've seen red at least twice this season.If he can't tackle then he's going to have to learn how to.

Well said.. It seems that popular players always get away with it... I always thought Shearer was able to use his elbows more than most

FrenchSpur wrote:

QBVILLA wrote:As is the way with young english midfielders there seems to be a lot of pundits simply saying that Wilshere can't tackle much in the same manner they've been excusing Scholes' shit tackling over the years.If there was any consistency then Wilshere would've seen red at least twice this season.If he can't tackle then he's going to have to learn how to.

Well said.. It seems that popular players always get away with it... I always thought Shearer was able to use his elbows more than most

Shearer basically had the FA over a barrel when they charged him with kicking Neil Lennon in the biscuit and he was facing a lengthy ban.Think it was on the eve of the '98 World Cup and as rumour goes Shearer threatened not to go if he received a ban.

QBVILLA wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:

QBVILLA wrote:As is the way with young english midfielders there seems to be a lot of pundits simply saying that Wilshere can't tackle much in the same manner they've been excusing Scholes' shit tackling over the years.If there was any consistency then Wilshere would've seen red at least twice this season.If he can't tackle then he's going to have to learn how to.

Well said.. It seems that popular players always get away with it... I always thought Shearer was able to use his elbows more than most

Shearer basically had the FA over a barrel when they charged him with kicking Neil Lennon in the biscuit and he was facing a lengthy ban.Think it was on the eve of the '98 World Cup and as rumour goes Shearer threatened not to go if he received a ban.

....and the fact Lennon is a tnuc....a ginger one at that

Oi Eddie, what's the difference between a ginger fanny and a cricket ball?

if you try really hard you can eat a cricket ball



































By the way, that is just a joke, not representative of my own thoughts just in case Nicole Kidman is reading

Granny beds aint going to be happy with you yam yam

villanfromluton wrote:Granny beds aint going to be happy with you yam yam

She thinks (quite rightly) that i'm a nice bloke.So pipe down Porky

QBVILLA wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:Granny beds aint going to be happy with you yam yam

She thinks (quite rightly) that i'm a nice bloke.So pipe down Porky

Nanna dont say that behind your back.

villanfromluton wrote:Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

He's a horrible little player. Talented, yes. There's no doubt about that. But he's a gobby little shite who's going to get smacked down a few pegs before long.

Tilton wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

He's a horrible little player. Talented, yes. There's no doubt about that. But he's a gobby little shite who's going to get smacked down a few pegs before long.

And what about Wilshire

Him too.

Tilton wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

He's a horrible little player. Talented, yes. There's no doubt about that. But he's a gobby little shite who's going to get smacked down a few pegs before long.

"...nonsense..?", ...."gobby little shite?"...... how apt the turn of phrase and how appropriate to the content.
For what it's worth I liken Young Jack to the early Tabloid Wayne - on the field of play he puts everything in and cares about what is going on around him. I just hope he manages to curb his off-field similarities as he matures.
I'd say he's got the potential to be a truly great player - he may be a titch-on-the-pitch but he can look after himself. Isn't that what we'd like from our favourite players?

Jack Wilshere has some unpleasant personality traits that he needs to address. JPR is right, there are some similarities between him and Rooney, although he wasn't brought up to be that way.

jpr60 wrote:

Tilton wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

He's a horrible little player. Talented, yes. There's no doubt about that. But he's a gobby little shite who's going to get smacked down a few pegs before long.

"...nonsense..?", ...."gobby little shite?"...... how apt the turn of phrase and how appropriate to the content.
For what it's worth I liken Young Jack to the early Tabloid Wayne - on the field of play he puts everything in and cares about what is going on around him. I just hope he manages to curb his off-field similarities as he matures.
I'd say he's got the potential to be a truly great player - he may be a titch-on-the-pitch but he can look after himself. Isn't that what we'd like from our favourite players?

I'm starting to believe that you are actually Arsene Wenger

QBVILLA wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

Tilton wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

He's a horrible little player. Talented, yes. There's no doubt about that. But he's a gobby little shite who's going to get smacked down a few pegs before long.

"...nonsense..?", ...."gobby little shite?"...... how apt the turn of phrase and how appropriate to the content.
For what it's worth I liken Young Jack to the early Tabloid Wayne - on the field of play he puts everything in and cares about what is going on around him. I just hope he manages to curb his off-field similarities as he matures.
I'd say he's got the potential to be a truly great player - he may be a titch-on-the-pitch but he can look after himself. Isn't that what we'd like from our favourite players?

I'm starting to believe that you are actually Arsene Wenger

I don't know what I've done to deserve such a compliment, but I thank you most heartily kind sir!

So what do you make of his tackle on Pennany yesterday then JPR, not forgetting the earlier tackle on Whitehead by the way.

villanfromluton wrote:So what do you make of his tackle on Pennany yesterday then JPR, not forgetting the earlier tackle on Whitehead by the way.

He didn't see it

villanfromluton wrote:So what do you make of his tackle on Pennany yesterday then JPR, not forgetting the earlier tackle on Whitehead by the way.

You may find this hard to believe but........"Ah deed not see eet".
I decided to pretend the season is over (our's is anyway), ManU champs, Chelsea runners-up, The Arsenal third - who gives one now, eh? Obviously we don't. So if Young Jack's been putting himself about a bit I couldn't give a monkey's TBH. No doubt whoever he whacked had it coming (or are you going to tell me Pennant and Whitehead are angels?) - nah, I'm finished. It's all about who's going down, for what it's worth and what's gonna happen between now and August when the whole effin circus starts again, by which time I'll have (hopefully) lost my "couldn't-give-a-shit" feelings!
No more matches for me this season, so I truly didn't see it AND I DON'T GIVE A STUFF!

Avfc_4eva_Sotc wrote:

Tilton wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:Anyone see his tackle on Pennant yesterday, was very lucky not to cause serious damage. If it had been the other way round, would Mr Wenger be spouting his nonsense again. He should have been booked earlier in the game for another poor challenge.

He's a horrible little player. Talented, yes. There's no doubt about that. But he's a gobby little shite who's going to get smacked down a few pegs before long.

And what about Wilshire

WTF you on about.. The statement contained the word talent.. Porky doesn't have any

jpr60 wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:So what do you make of his tackle on Pennany yesterday then JPR, not forgetting the earlier tackle on Whitehead by the way.

You may find this hard to believe but........"Ah deed not see eet".
I decided to pretend the season is over (our's is anyway), ManU champs, Chelsea runners-up, The Arsenal third - who gives one now, eh? Obviously we don't. So if Young Jack's been putting himself about a bit I couldn't give a monkey's TBH. No doubt whoever he whacked had it coming (or are you going to tell me Pennant and Whitehead are angels?) - nah, I'm finished. It's all about who's going down, for what it's worth and what's gonna happen between now and August when the whole effin circus starts again, by which time I'll have (hopefully) lost my "couldn't-give-a-shit" feelings!
No more matches for me this season, so I truly didn't see it AND I DON'T GIVE A STUFF!

So in other words, it is okay for him to do whatever he wants, and as for them getting what they deserved, at the time of the Pennant incident in the second half, Stoke had committed one foul all game. Maybe the next time you are on whingeing about Le Arse being bullied, you should think about yesterdays game.

villanfromluton wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:So what do you make of his tackle on Pennany yesterday then JPR, not forgetting the earlier tackle on Whitehead by the way.

You may find this hard to believe but........"Ah deed not see eet".
I decided to pretend the season is over (our's is anyway), ManU champs, Chelsea runners-up, The Arsenal third - who gives one now, eh? Obviously we don't. So if Young Jack's been putting himself about a bit I couldn't give a monkey's TBH. No doubt whoever he whacked had it coming (or are you going to tell me Pennant and Whitehead are angels?) - nah, I'm finished. It's all about who's going down, for what it's worth and what's gonna happen between now and August when the whole effin circus starts again, by which time I'll have (hopefully) lost my "couldn't-give-a-shit" feelings!
No more matches for me this season, so I truly didn't see it AND I DON'T GIVE A STUFF!

So in other words, it is okay for him to do whatever he wants, and as for them getting what they deserved, at the time of the Pennant incident in the second half, Stoke had committed one foul all game. Maybe the next time you are on whingeing about Le Arse being bullied, you should think about yesterdays game.

From what I gather the Stoke players were busy ensuring there were no red cards, no tasty tackles which might have resulted in injuries and were generally swanning about because The Arsenal team weren't exactly putting them under too much pressure. Stoke only committing one foul all game? Now doesn't that strike you as being a little unusual?
I don't "whinge" about Arsenal being bullied, I complain about Arsenal players having badly damaged legs due to "clumsy" challenges which threaten their careers. The blokes who do the damage "aren't that sort of player" of course, it's the Arsenal players (Diaby, Eduardo, Ramsey) who ask to have their respective legs broken. My complaint would be about the "nice bloke" who does the damage getting to miss a couple of games (if the ref "harshly" red-cards him) whilst our players nurse career-threatening injuries for a season or more. There - is that a "whinge" or a genuine complaint?

jpr60 wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

villanfromluton wrote:So what do you make of his tackle on Pennany yesterday then JPR, not forgetting the earlier tackle on Whitehead by the way.

You may find this hard to believe but........"Ah deed not see eet".
I decided to pretend the season is over (our's is anyway), ManU champs, Chelsea runners-up, The Arsenal third - who gives one now, eh? Obviously we don't. So if Young Jack's been putting himself about a bit I couldn't give a monkey's TBH. No doubt whoever he whacked had it coming (or are you going to tell me Pennant and Whitehead are angels?) - nah, I'm finished. It's all about who's going down, for what it's worth and what's gonna happen between now and August when the whole effin circus starts again, by which time I'll have (hopefully) lost my "couldn't-give-a-shit" feelings!
No more matches for me this season, so I truly didn't see it AND I DON'T GIVE A STUFF!

So in other words, it is okay for him to do whatever he wants, and as for them getting what they deserved, at the time of the Pennant incident in the second half, Stoke had committed one foul all game. Maybe the next time you are on whingeing about Le Arse being bullied, you should think about yesterdays game.

From what I gather the Stoke players were busy ensuring there were no red cards, no tasty tackles which might have resulted in injuries and were generally swanning about because The Arsenal team weren't exactly putting them under too much pressure. Stoke only committing one foul all game? Now doesn't that strike you as being a little unusual?
I don't "whinge" about Arsenal being bullied, I complain about Arsenal players having badly damaged legs due to "clumsy" challenges which threaten their careers. The blokes who do the damage "aren't that sort of player" of course, it's the Arsenal players (Diaby, Eduardo, Ramsey) who ask to have their respective legs broken. My complaint would be about the "nice bloke" who does the damage getting to miss a couple of games (if the ref "harshly" red-cards him) whilst our players nurse career-threatening injuries for a season or more. There - is that a "whinge" or a genuine complaint?

Well it's a tad one eyed.Wilshere has put in some terrible over the top of the ball tackles this season and the only difference between him and Shawcross was the luck of the player on the receiving end.It doesn't have to result in a broken leg for it to be a horrific/reckless challenge.

So Wilsheres challenge, which could have easily caused damage, was ok. JPR, that is more than one eyed. As for Stoke, they outplayed a very poor Arsenal team who appeared to be going through the motions with the exception of Van Persie and Wilshere

villanfromluton wrote:So Wilsheres challenge, which could have easily caused damage, was ok. JPR, that is more than one eyed. As for Stoke, they outplayed a very poor Arsenal team who appeared to be going through the motions with the exception of Van Persie and Wilshere

As I say, I truly didn't see anything of the match - one-eyed or not. Thing is there are always challenges going on, some legal, some illegal, some reckless, some downright nasty and/or out of control. Fact is our players seem to have come out worse over recent times and I'd put at least two of the challenges down to being nasty, one overly clumsy. But I've been watching hard men put themselves about for years - Peter Storey didn't used to hold himself back but I don't think he ever broke anyone's leg. Maybe he (or they, his opponents) got lucky - maybe Wilshere was lucky, I dunno, but the facts still speak for themselves. We've lost two promising players (Diaby - he's never recovered properly) and Eduardo - I hope Ramsey will recover.
Meanwhile the Arsenal performace - who gives a toss? They obviously don't so, as I say, I'll wait until the dust settles and see whether we've got any chance at all of taking the final hurdle to success next season (and I don't mean the league Cup)!