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FrenchSpur wrote:You're shit ahhhhhhhhhbb

I get your general drift, Cath but I'm somewhat foxed by the "ahhhhhhhhhbb". I've googled it, run it through spellcheck and tried a Thesaurus. Perhaps you could elucidate?

jak wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:You're shit ahhhhhhhhhbb

I get your general drift, Cath but I'm somewhat foxed by the "ahhhhhhhhhbb". I've googled it, run it through spellcheck and tried a Thesaurus. Perhaps you could elucidate?

Thats what happens when you try to type on an iphone in a pub full of unhappy gooners and saints fans.....

Did you watch the game ???

Got to say saw most of the game and enjoyed it, both teams went for it. Thought Dawson was MOTM, got a top attitude. Bit puzzled by Arsenal playing such a high line against the likes of Bale and Lennon

villanfromluton wrote:Got to say saw most of the game and enjoyed it, both teams went for it. Thought Dawson was MOTM, got a top attitude. Bit puzzled by Arsenal playing such a high line against the likes of Bale and Lennon

I think the Gooners are going to get past Chelsea in the premiership unless there is a sea change in their attitude with raffa....

Yes I watched the game and I watched us commit Hari Kari for about the tenth time this season.
There it is. We knew about Bale and we played right into his hands.

I was surprised the right back Jenkinson got the hook, thought he was doing a good job Jak.

villanfromluton wrote:I was surprised the right back Jenkinson got the hook, thought he was doing a good job Jak.

He was my man of the match for Arsenal. He's gonna be a real good player given a run in the side. He crosses the ball really well and he's a fit lad. He can really motor up and down the flank.
Why the feck he brought on Rosicky for him and moved Ramsey to right back, feck knows.
I think Wenger does have his favourites and the young lad was an easy option to take off. The change did nothing for the team other than weakening us in an area where we'd looked very dangerous.

I totally agree with everything you say there Jak. The lad was bombing down the right and looking dangerous. Was shocked when he got hooked. What was the point in putting Ramsey at right back, he was actually starting to impose himself in the middle. I dont think Arsenal played bad, just bad defending for those goals, the big German is sooo slow and dont know what has happened to your captain, he seems a different player these days. The left back was poor defensively, apparently was last week as well. I have heard he is a top player and am sure he will come good, but his defending was poor today

Vermaelen seemed totally surprised by Lennon.
The left back was shite but can you believe our centre back AND captain was completely mugged. He's been rubbish all season, why the feck Wenger made him captain, God only knows.

Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Blimey, even the eternal optimist has given up.

QBVILLA wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Blimey, even the eternal optimist has given up.

I've come to realise that we don't seem to be able to raise our game when motivation shouldn't be in question. We couldn't do it against Bayern (that was a real eye-opener for me) and we couldn't even do it against the Spuds (who really aren't a particularly good team, despite all the Bayle hype), which means we're seriously lacking in, I dunno, leadership/character - whatever. Something is missing (and it isn't RvP, or Fabregas) - the player quality is there (Wilshere, Cazorla, Podolski - even Giroud gives it a go) but the spirit is gone. We're in a massive trough right now and there's no knowing how or when we'll get out of it - it certainly won't be in Munich next week that's for sure!

I watched it as a pure neutral and for me the difference was Dawson and Vertonghen. Had they been playing for Arsenal rather than Spurs then imo it would have been a comfortable Arsenal victory. Despite what you say about Bale, he is the best player in the league over the past three months. With both Bale and Lennon on the pitch playing at 45yrds was suicidal. For me when you have the pace of those two up against Mertesacker and co you simply defend the 18yd line first and don't leave any room in behind. Mertesacker has no problem defending facing the opposition's goal but get him turned and facing his own keeper and he's in big trouble. The second goal was IMO down to the left back letting Lennon run without even giving the sleepwalking Vermaelen a shout. Once players of that pace get a free yard you aren't going to catch them. For a manager of Wenger's experience to set his side up like this smacked of a lack of respect for the ability of the opposition. Ferguson wouldn't do that. Steve Bould may as well leave now as well. If he is doing his job, then he's shit. If he isn't being allowed to do his job then he'll have his repuation as a coach battered. For me AVB got his tactics spot on and Wenger was left wanting.

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Lets get a couple of things straight here,,,,,, we score our goals you don't give them to us so balls to that....

The others thing here is tha you never looked like scoring especially in the second half.... If anything you were gifted a goal...

Buff said for now

jpr60 wrote:

QBVILLA wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Blimey, even the eternal optimist has given up.

I've come to realise that we don't seem to be able to raise our game when motivation shouldn't be in question. We couldn't do it against Bayern (that was a real eye-opener for me) and we couldn't even do it against the Spuds (who really aren't a particularly good team, despite all the Bayle hype), which means we're seriously lacking in, I dunno, leadership/character - whatever. Something is missing (and it isn't RvP, or Fabregas) - the player quality is there (Wilshere, Cazorla, Podolski - even Giroud gives it a go) but the spirit is gone. We're in a massive trough right now and there's no knowing how or when we'll get out of it - it certainly won't be in Munich next week that's for sure!

Well actually darlin wecareca good team.... We have a lot of vey good player

so again balls to you... Stop bing so one eye about it all

FrenchSpur wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Lets get a couple of things straight here,,,,,, we score our goals you don't give them to us so balls to that....

The others thing here is tha you never looked like scoring especially in the second half.... If anything you were gifted a goal...

Buff said for now

We're presumably forgetting the Ramsey strike that just cleared the far post (Theo would have buried that) and the Theo strike that arked narrowly wide................you Spuds were bricking it throughout the match, even you "knew" we'd win, as we usually do!

The thing is darlin you are living off past glories.... You haven't had thing all your own way in the past four or five years.... Previously yes but not now....

There was a saying when I worked in the city.... It was you are only as good as your last trade.... Translates well in to footy I think

FrenchSpur wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

QBVILLA wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Blimey, even the eternal optimist has given up.

I've come to realise that we don't seem to be able to raise our game when motivation shouldn't be in question. We couldn't do it against Bayern (that was a real eye-opener for me) and we couldn't even do it against the Spuds (who really aren't a particularly good team, despite all the Bayle hype), which means we're seriously lacking in, I dunno, leadership/character - whatever. Something is missing (and it isn't RvP, or Fabregas) - the player quality is there (Wilshere, Cazorla, Podolski - even Giroud gives it a go) but the spirit is gone. We're in a massive trough right now and there's no knowing how or when we'll get out of it - it certainly won't be in Munich next week that's for sure!

Well actually darlin wecareca good team.... We have a lot of vey good player

so again balls to you... Stop bing so one eye about it all

I think you had both eyes shut when you typed this

You have no leaders on the pitch.. the likes of Podolski Carzolla are good players but need a bit of steel and leadership next to them..

Its a downward spiral thats been gathering pace for a while now.. normally you make top four cus the rest are shite..

Man U pay RvP 200K and Wellbeck 30K without any rumblings.. while Arsenal continue to pay average shite 50-60K across the board instead of utlising the pay structure better..

Would be some irony if the year you have some serious money to spend and relax your wage structure your not in the Champions League..

But then again the players Arsene probably will go for will come without Champ Lge football..

Thing is I reckon English club football is at a pretty low level right now - ManU top team, but nowhere near a top ManU team of yesteryear. The rest, ManC, Tottingham, Chelsea, Arsenal - hardly capable of setting the world of international club football alight are they? The Arsenal are still in the CL, waving the flag for English football until we get our Arse handed to us on a plate in Munich next week! Some or all of the clubs can play well but consistently? No way.
So perhaps we have to go back to the drawing board to see what makes a good club great. Until we find the solution (which clubs like Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern seem to have found) we'll be missing out on the level of dominance our top clubs used to enjoy. It clearly (thankfully) ain't just about money!

Football evolves.
Barcelona are now playing tippy tappy with no movement off the ball.
Loads of possession but little at the end of it. Looking a lot like The Arsenal back and forth across the 18 yard box with no penetration.
You cannot stand still.
The German teams will now be the dominant force until someone else moves on tactically.

villanfromluton wrote:

FrenchSpur wrote:

jpr60 wrote:

QBVILLA wrote:

jpr60 wrote:Have to say I'm in denial. I truly thought we'd beat Spuds as usual - give 'em a goal or two and score four or five. When Bayle scored I said, "Good, Bayle's got his goal" fully expecting us to go out and score a few of our own. When we let the midget in to score I must admit feeling a touch worried but all through the game I thought we'd win, right up 'til near the end when I was feeling disappointed cos we'd only be coming away with a point - but we lost, apparently. We lost to the effin Spuds?!?!
Terrible defending but not too bright at closing down in midfield either (otherwise the balls wouldn't have been coming through for the runners to score). Even Frimpong knows to "track your runners" but our disorganised back four seem to be at a loss.
I dunno - I've kind of given up hope - we've got another footballing lesson to take from the effin Germans next - what is the world coming to?

Blimey, even the eternal optimist has given up.

I've come to realise that we don't seem to be able to raise our game when motivation shouldn't be in question. We couldn't do it against Bayern (that was a real eye-opener for me) and we couldn't even do it against the Spuds (who really aren't a particularly good team, despite all the Bayle hype), which means we're seriously lacking in, I dunno, leadership/character - whatever. Something is missing (and it isn't RvP, or Fabregas) - the player quality is there (Wilshere, Cazorla, Podolski - even Giroud gives it a go) but the spirit is gone. We're in a massive trough right now and there's no knowing how or when we'll get out of it - it certainly won't be in Munich next week that's for sure!

Well actually darlin wecareca good team.... We have a lot of vey good player

so again balls to you... Stop bing so one eye about it all

I think you had both eyes shut when you typed this

Or got Marky to do the typing!