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jpr60 wrote:

Tilton wrote:You're on the wind up here, jpr, aren't you? Please tell me you are.

The ref doesn't have to blow for a foul as soon as your keeper flattens Oscar. He can wait and see if the ball goes in. He can then retrospectively take any action he deems necessary. It's called playing the advantage and the rule has been in force for a while..........

Your scenario of the ref blowing up, the ball going in, and Chelsea ending up with a pen instead of a goal doesn't need to happen. This is what the rule is for.

When the ball didn't go in, the ref should have called play back to the initial contact and awarded a foul against your keeper, meaning a penalty as it was inside the box. The keeper should also have been booked at the very least. It was a terrible decision by the ref. And I think you know it.

Also, by your logic, it's ok for a player to arrive late into a challenge and no action should be taken because "he just arrived late"? Let's see if the same applies next time an Arsenal player gets injured by a player "just arriving late" and the ref gives you nothing.........

Clearly the Chelsea bloke played the ball - Ospina didn't in any way effect the ball that was played, so he didn't stop the bloke scoring (Belerin did, thankfully) - after which Ospina arrived, having gone for the ball. That's never a pen - it could be a yellow card but once, as a keeper you take off for a ball it's somewhat difficult to stop mid-jump cos the bloke's hit the ball first. I don't see that as a pen or a red card. If it happened at the other end where, say John Terry arrived late in the tackle after, say Giroud had shot it could well be a yellow card but that would be a tackle at ground level - when a keeper takes off for a high ball it's difficult to stop mid-flight to avoid a player, on the ground you can pull a foot out of the tackle (if you want to) to avoid any damage. Come on, the ref got it right, for once. Good thinking ref!

Tilton wrote:Wrong again, jpr

Mourinho did not agree with the ref. He went mad at the 4th official at the time and declined to comment directly on the decisions afterwards.

Instead, he graciously said he wanted to for get about the penalties and complimented the ref on having an otherwise decent game. He said it was a fair result, apart from the penalty decisions.

He's got class you see. Can you imagine Wenger letting it go like that? Old Arsene would still be whining about it now.....

jpr60 wrote:I'd be the first to admit a mistake Tilts - it has happened (although I don't remember when - one is not often wrong or, indeed mistaken) - but on this occasion it's a matter of understanding the ways of football, which I do. Perhaps you don't but that's not a problem and I certainly wouldn't expect you to admit your mistake, if you don't understand then that's it, eh?

Tilton wrote:

jpr60 wrote:I'd be the first to admit a mistake Tilts - it has happened (although I don't remember when - one is not often wrong or, indeed mistaken) - but on this occasion it's a matter of understanding the ways of football, which I do. Perhaps you don't but that's not a problem and I certainly wouldn't expect you to admit your mistake, if you don't understand then that's it, eh?

Wrong again, jpr

You have shown that you don't even understand the concept of the Advantage Rule, for starters.

Tilton wrote:Yes, the advantage was lost when the ball didn't go into the net. The ref should have blown his whistle, called play back to where your keeper flattened the attacker and given a foul against your keeper for the reckless challenge. It was inside the box, thus a penalty should have been given and your keeper probably sent off. The ref made a mistake. It's quite simple.

Have you got it this time?

Tilton wrote:So by your logic, nobody ever gets penalised for a 'late' challenge? The ball has already been played, so it's ok to assault the opposition player? The fact that the challenge had no effect on the play means that no foul is given? So why do refs book / send off players / give free kicks and penalties hundreds of times a season for challenges that happen after the ball has been played?

What about your scenario earlier in this thread, when Terry makes a 'late' challenge on an Arsenal player? You said that a foul would probably be given in that scenario. So why not here?

And don't give me that bizarre explanation about it being 'at ground level' or whatever you said!

Tilton wrote:I'll say it again: You're going to lose to the scum in the Cup Final, aren't you?